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Post by bobmart on Sept 10, 2006 18:30:25 GMT -6
nope, not really. I don;t care if that person coinceded, in fact, I'm nont even arguiong on behalf of him. You must be a real idiot to think I was. I'm arguing on behalf of myself. By the way, I have proven that "ain't" and "stupider" are in fact words, and I would like to know how dictionary.com is not a real dictionary. And Instead of actually debating about the subject of whether or not "ain't" or "stupider" are words, you have only attacked me personally with arguments not relating to the subject and refusing to answer my questions. You have given no evidence whatsoever to suggest that "ain't" and "stupider" aren't words, only personal attacks that are just plain meaningless to the topic of debate. I am lead to believe that personal attacks are all you have and you know that you have no evidence to the contrary of mine and you refuse to answer my questions because you would be trapped no matter how you would answer. And just so you haven't forgotten, my evidence was from webster-dictionary defining what a "word" is. b (1) : a written or printed character or combination of characters representing a spoken wordBecause "ain't" and "stupider" are a combination of characters and they represent a spoken word, they are words. The only way you could win against this argument, is if you have evidence suggesting Webster is not a real dictionary.
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Post by daveshn on Sept 10, 2006 18:53:40 GMT -6
This is not an intervention into a flame war. This is only a post that is stating facts according to Webster.com and sentences of my own that contain no opinions. • NonwordMain Entry: non·word Pronunciation: -'w&rd Function: noun : a word that has no meaning, is not known to exist, or is disapproved • Ain'tMain Entry: ain't Pronunciation: 'Ant Etymology: contraction of are not 1 : am not : are not : is not 2 : have not : has not 3 : do not : does not : did not -- used in some varieties of Black English usage Although widely disapproved as nonstandard[/color] and more common in the habitual speech of the less educated, ain't in senses 1 and 2 is flourishing in American English. It is used in both speech and writing to catch attention and to gain emphasis <the wackiness of movies, once so deliciously amusing, ain't funny anymore -- Richard Schickel> <I am telling you--there ain't going to be any blackmail -- R. M. Nixon>. It is used especially in journalistic prose as part of a consistently informal style <the creative process ain't easy -- Mike Royko>. This informal ain't is commonly distinguished from habitual ain't by its frequent occurrence in fixed constructions and phrases <well--class it ain't -- Cleveland Amory> <for money? say it ain't so, Jimmy! -- Andy Rooney> <you ain't seen nothing yet> <that ain't hay> <two out of three ain't bad> <if it ain't broke, don't fix it>. In fiction ain't is used for purposes of characterization; in familiar correspondence it tends to be the mark of a warm personal friendship. It is also used for metrical reasons in popular songs <Ain't She Sweet> <It Ain't Necessarily So>. Our evidence shows British use to be much the same as American. • LargeMain Entry: 1large Pronunciation: 'lärj Function: adjective Inflected Form(s): larg·er; larg·est[/color] Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, broad, wide, generous, from Latin largus generous, plentiful 1 obsolete : LAVISH 2 obsolete a : AMPLE, ABUNDANT b : EXTENSIVE, BROAD 3 a : having more than usual capacity or scope : COMPREHENSIVE <take the large view> <will take a larger role in the negotiations> b : POWERFUL, FORCEFUL c : very successful or popular <a large rock band> 4 a : exceeding most other things of like kind especially in quantity or size : BIG b : dealing in great numbers or quantities <a large and highly profitable business> 5 obsolete a of language or expression : COARSE, VULGAR b : lax in conduct : LOOSE 6 of a wind : FAVORABLE 7 : EXTRAVAGANT, BOASTFUL <large talk> - large·ness noun - larg·ish /'lär-jish/ adjective • StupidMain Entry: 1stu·pid Pronunciation: 'stü-p&d, 'styü- Function: adjective [ No inflected forms were listed.[/color]] Etymology: Middle French stupide, from Latin stupidus, from stupEre to be numb, be astonished -- more at TYPE 1 a : slow of mind : OBTUSE b : given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c : lacking intelligence or reason : BRUTISH 2 : dulled in feeling or sensation : TORPID <still stupid from the sedative> 3 : marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : SENSELESS <a stupid decision> 4 a : lacking interest or point <a stupid event> b : VEXATIOUS, EXASPERATING <the stupid car won't start> - stu·pid·ly adverb - stu·pid·ness noun synonyms STUPID, DULL, DENSE, CRASS, DUMB mean lacking in power to absorb ideas or impressions. STUPID implies a slow-witted or dazed state of mind that may be either congenital or temporary <stupid students just keeping the seats warm> <stupid with drink>. DULL suggests a slow or sluggish mind such as results from disease, depression, or shock <monotonous work that leaves the mind dull>. DENSE implies a thickheaded imperviousness to ideas <too dense to take a hint>. CRASS suggests a grossness of mind precluding discrimination or delicacy <a crass, materialistic people>. DUMB applies to an exasperating obtuseness or lack of comprehension <too dumb to figure out what's going on>. • NecropostThe word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search box to the right. This post contains no opinions on my part. Also, it is not my intention to interfere with any flamewar.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 10, 2006 20:37:18 GMT -6
• NonwordMain Entry: non·word Pronunciation: -'w&rd Function: noun : a word that has no meaning, is not known to exist, or is disapproved so what makes a word disapproved? [/color] and more common in the habitual speech of the less educated, ain't in senses 1 and 2 is flourishing in American English. It is used in both speech and writing to catch attention and to gain emphasis <the wackiness of movies, once so deliciously amusing, ain't funny anymore -- Richard Schickel> <I am telling you--there ain't going to be any blackmail -- R. M. Nixon>. It is used especially in journalistic prose as part of a consistently informal style <the creative process ain't easy -- Mike Royko>. This informal ain't is commonly distinguished from habitual ain't by its frequent occurrence in fixed constructions and phrases <well--class it ain't -- Cleveland Amory> <for money? say it ain't so, Jimmy! -- Andy Rooney> <you ain't seen nothing yet> <that ain't hay> <two out of three ain't bad> <if it ain't broke, don't fix it>. In fiction ain't is used for purposes of characterization; in familiar correspondence it tends to be the mark of a warm personal friendship. It is also used for metrical reasons in popular songs <Ain't She Sweet> <It Ain't Necessarily So>. Our evidence shows British use to be much the same as American. [/quote] The Statement "widely disapproved as a nonstandard" implys that, that it is approved by a good minority of people. Disapproval is more widespread, yes, but it still has approval. 2. You defined "large" why......? 3. You defined "stupid" why........? 4. So, Mjc, you must be a bobmart, you used a word that doesn't exist according to your logic. What right do you have telling us to use words that exist(to your logic), as you have said in post 31?
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Post by daveshn on Sept 10, 2006 20:54:47 GMT -6
I don't know why you are asking me this. I just wanted to post some stuff I found on Webster.com that looked interesting.
I'm not involved with your flamewar at all, nor do I wish to be.
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 11, 2006 1:57:30 GMT -6
You can't have a good minority, idiot. They're a minority because there aren't a lot of them. "Ain't" and "stupider" are not words. End of discussion. YOU LOSE. And one final thing: www.m-w.com/dictionary/necr-One entry found for necr-. Main Entry: necr- Variant(s): or necro-Function: combining form Etymology: Late Latin, from Greek nekr-, nekro-, from nekros dead body -- more at NOXIOUS 1 : those that are dead <necrophilia> 2 : one that is dead <necropsy> It's called a combining form, you sappy twat. Therefore Necro- + posting = Necroposting.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 11, 2006 7:23:30 GMT -6
You can't have a good minority, idiot. They're a minority because there aren't a lot of them. "Ain't" and "stupider" are not words. End of discussion. YOU LOSE. Nope, it has to be "Disapproved", not have some people that do and some that don't. You can bet all the rednecks approve of it, I win!
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 11, 2006 8:05:59 GMT -6
You already lost. The dictionary itself says that "ain't" is disapproved, meaning it's not a word, but a nonword. In case you don't know, non- is another one of those wonderful combining forms. When combined with word, it makes nonword, which means "isn't a word" or "not a word." Now kindly admit your defeat and resume not posting anymore.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 11, 2006 10:14:22 GMT -6
nope, otherwise the dictionary would just say "disapproved" which means everyone 100% agrees that is is a nonword, but it doesn't say that, it just says "widely disapproved" which means some people, though a minority, approve it. (i.e. rednecks) prove it. not till you answer my questions
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 11, 2006 10:38:35 GMT -6
Where in the definition of nonword does it say it has to be 100% disapproved? If "ain't" was approved by enough people, the dictionary wouldn't bother saying that it's widely unapproved. You can't have a good minority because a good minority is called something else: a majority. And I already did anwser your questions. Necroposting is a word formed of the combining form "necro-" and the base word "posting." not till you answer my questions Here's you saying you'd leave once your questions were answered. They are answered, now please hold true to your word and stop posting.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 12, 2006 7:24:17 GMT -6
cool, I lost. What are you going tot do? smite me?
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 12, 2006 7:46:08 GMT -6
No, I'm just going to ask you to hold true to your promise to resume not posting anymore now that you've admitted your defeat.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 12, 2006 10:35:00 GMT -6
When did I promise not to post anymore? And If I happen to post anyways, whats going to happen? Smite me? ban? suspension? The only way a promise is ever legal nowadays is that if it is in writing, signed by both people involved in the deal, signed by a number of witnessess, and lawyer is present during the time of the deal. Then and only then is it official. My promise (supposing that I made such a promise) means nothing.
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 12, 2006 10:41:27 GMT -6
not till you answer my questions You said once your questions were answered, you'd resume not posting anymore. They are answered, now stay to your word and resume not posting.
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Post by bobmart on Sept 12, 2006 10:47:29 GMT -6
not till you answer my questions You said once your questions were answered, you'd resume not posting anymore. They are answered, now stay to your word and resume not posting. no, I will not admit defeat untill you answered my questions, not that I wouldn't quit posting anymore untill you answered my questions. And it wasn't even a promise either! I'm going to keep posting and there is nothing that you can do about it!
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Post by mjc0961 on Sept 12, 2006 11:14:59 GMT -6
You did not make that specification before.
How dishonorable of you. If your word means nothing, what do you have? Just no respect from anyone.
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